FM Optics FMO FM5-9CP. Expanding my personal GP collection, at least they sell at a discount to MSRP…, they look good but function like crap –FTF – they hate HP ammo — just feed it 124 gr ball — does not like light loads – mag lips break – one of my worst purchase ever. But lots of people can’t or just don’t want to. It felt heavy. This is the Brand New GRANDPOWER Stribog SP9A1 with all new NON-RECIPROCATING CHARGING HANDLE. Having fired both, I actually prefer the Stribog. In fact, quite the opposite: I assumed it would be terrible. Still waiting for the Stribog A3 with its mysterious “semi-locked bolt with delayed action via transfer roller” mechanism. The Grand Power Stribog SP9A3 PDW w/ Tailhook Pistol Brace 9mm Gen2 offers the reliability and robustness of previous versions that enthusiasts, reviewers, and firearm dealers have come to love. I agree the trigger is heavy, but it is exceptionally smooth, has no takeup, and very short reset. The recoil is similar to my AR pistol. I was really looking forward to tearing it a new one, but I actually think they did a better job with the design than B&T did. This problem was easily solved with an angled foregrip. If you wanted something better than 2 inches at 25 yards with handgun ammunition then you’re probably going to want to look elsewhere, but I don’t know where that would be. All of them having their ups and downs. Somehow this stribog has managed to impress me. Back a few years ago. Especially the comments section. About four years ago I reviewed the B&T APC-9. Mine is on order. Oh well. For others looking to do the same, I’d probably recommend hitting it with a torch for a bit to heat the thread protector up which should help it slide off. 11 Year Anniversary Gun Show & Swap Meet - August 28, 2021 - Click, Featured Listings are working again! Join today, registration is easy! No contest. At least go back and update your Scorp review. It’s actually comfortable even for my big hands. Reliability * * * * * Even suppressed. Pistol brace guns for sale at Impact Guns. The feed lips of the plastic magazines are razor thin and many of mine broke after after just a little use rendering them useless. I have tried for a time now to make friends with my Stribog, but it has been a disappointment. There’s an excellent handful of threads on *slight retch* ar15.com about the Stribog. Welcome to The Outdoors Trader! I assume you didn’t take the gun down for field strip because the pins were crazy tight like so many others (easily the most severe issue I have with the gun). Check out the ODT store for all our shirt and sticker options and any other gear that may be available! To be honest, I liked it better than my rifle. With at least 1k rounds dtp it is most certainly a fun plinker and has not let me down… not once. I handled a Stribog on a visit to Vegas. This cycle seems to be all about adapting existing designs, whether that’s the plethora of 9mm AR-15 variants or this Stribog SP9A1 we’re looking at today. Ruger PC Charger Muzzle Brake comes with a Crush Washer and Installs Easily in 15 minutes as long as you have a vise to properly secure the barrel in place during installation. 16 3 7. None of my magazines will drop free and in fact have to be pulled out. It is a semi-automatic Pistol chambered in 9MM with an 8" Threaded Barrel, Aluminum Frame and all black finish. Out. Discount Program Join the MageWorx Discount Program to unlock special discounts, earn reward points on every purchase and save on buying products in bulk. Grand Power makes really well built and finished stuff. They were doing rotating barrels before the Glock 46 will make it cool. Impact Guns is the gun shop for all your shooting needs. They are strictly a toy . don’t buy the A3 – get the A1 if you have to buy a stribog — no where in any reviews do they tell you about the mag problems, the FTF problems or the fact that they hate HP ammunition. Pistol? You have entered an incorrect email address! That means you can put your thumb over it for some extra leverage without worrying about your thumb spontaneously separating from your hand. The spring capture system in the bolt is needlessly odd & makes field stripping harder than it could be, but it definately works so I can’t knock it too much. I sent it back and they cut the front of the bolt slightly. ), FS/FT Trijicon Credo HX 1-6x24 LPVO on ADM QD Mount, FS/FT 11.5" BCM/Noveske Complete AR Pistol w/ Surefire Warden, FS/FT Desert Eagle 50ae (Israeli made) w/ 100rds, FS FS Glock 43X MOS Night Sights, 2 extra Shield Arms S-15 Mags, IWB Holster. I have always been intrigued by interesting firearms out of the “norm”. And for those who want a brace from the factory, Global Ordnance (the USA importer of this firearm) has a version available that includes this spiffy looking SB Tactical pistol brace already attached for your pleasure. Man it is great to get some Nick back isn’t it? Overall Length: 14.74” Out on the range this thing is an absolute pleasure to shoot. Other than that, SBR’s get the same shit done, but better. you are so right — have both the A1 and A3 — although the A1functions better — not good enough for me to carry — don’t buy — there are so many better choices out there. Caliber: 9mm Luger Thank you for your review… let me be the first here to say I’ve missed your input on this site. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and … It’s a fantastic pistol and shoots great with that rotating barrel. The pistol without the magazine weighs 20.28 ounces. Feature your listing on every page for $3 a day! I would like to mention that Global Ordnance was nice enough to include some of their Fiocci 9mm ammunition in a can, titled “CANmunition,” to help facilitate the review. By default this handgun is shipped without any kind of a brace, so the rear of the firearm is just the rear of the firearm. I’ve taken a spin on mpx’s, scorpions , mp5’s and vectors. I told him I take accuracy testing seriously, and while I tried to include my AN/PEQ-15 it just wouldn’t fit for some reason. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing, as the APC-9 is a (pricey) work of mechanical art, and I think Grand Power (a firearms manufacturer based in Slovakia) actually improved the operating mechanism in their version. Clean, smooth, and velvety. Considering this is technically a “pistol” that wouldn’t be unreasonable for an imported handgun, I just wish there was an easy way to drop that trigger pull weight down. And the second I saw this Grand Power Stribog SP9A1 in the gun deals section on Reddit I was hooked. You may not edit your posts. But the SP9A1’s trigger is definitely heavy, clocking in at about 7.75 pounds. I get that adding a brace changes things. Here’s my take. the extra money you spend on the A3 is a waste of money — first it is no way as nice as an MP — second – being a 9mm, there is not that much recoil to begin with — have both A1 and A3 — and I’d dump them both if I could find someone to take them off my hand and rather have the CZ – FTF – mags suck – nothing but problems and if you want on for HD — don’t plan on using hollow points — they jamp. That’s the only thing that was holding me back. I’ve been ranting about it for years through my outlets. Or, at least knock a big dent in it. Since all of my other guns are threaded, that adds a step when I want to swap them from one firearm to another at the range. There are a few firearms that run different barrel threads… Four years later and we’re starting to see the next wave of pistol caliber carbines coming on the market. $2250? The same extruded aluminum upper receiver design is used here, and just as with the B&T firearm, the finish on the Stribog SP9A1 is smooth as silk. Rocksett is not required but is the recommended thread locker for muzzle brake applications due to the 1,500 degree temperature rating and removable strength properties. The reliability of my trophy still beats the plastic mold injected toys of today. Things inside the upper receiver are very different from the APC-9. apps47inc. The APC-9 was their sub gun entry into the field and it was exactly like their accessories: visually stunning, technically perfect, and massively expensive. Rock solid, tight tolerance, build quality on par with 1K pistols. 0: ... Beretta APX 9mm 4.25Inch Barrel 17+1 Rnd - $329.00. The best I was able to produce was right at 2 inches from an 8-inch barrel at 25 yards running typical 9mm Luger handgun ammunition. The safety selector is much better than the APC-9 design, using a more ergonomic shape that doesn’t cut into your hand when firing. Buy the time you spend money on getting a lower that functions you might as well buy a cz scorpion or a 9mm colt – at least with these you can buy spare parts. That’s a 9mm semi auto carbine. For the money the Stribog SP9A1 is an excellent 9mm semi-automatic pistol. Thread in 'Trash Pile' started by DOGBONE, Apr 14, 2021. Specifications: Grand Power Stribog SP9A1 9mm Carbine Pistol, Imported By: Global Ordnance But instead of having permanently attached Picatinny rails on the sides there are M-LOK compatible slots for you to attach whatever rails or accessories you need. Both systems use a straight blowback action, relying on the rearward pressure from the barrel to pop out the spent brass and move the bolt backwards. Barrel Length: 8” I complain a lot about proprietary magazines, especially in a world where the NATO magazine has become so ubiquitous. Each new Stribog SP9A1 ships with: 3x 30 round Magazines (yes, you read that right, we include THREE 30 ROUND MAGAZINES WITH EACH NEW STRIBOG!) But in this case, the cost isn’t bad. I didn’t get to shoot it as it was at a random gun store. And for those who hate accumulating money, there are indeed aftermarket barrels available with the tri-lug adapter machined into the muzzle. BB code is On. A red dot (check fyland brand on amazon for $29 excellent quality one that doesn’t lose zero) and brace (check sig brand contour brace for a thin one) is essential for this gun imo. Overall * * * * * Grand Power Stribog SP9A1 Gen2 9mm 8. apps47inc. Very clever innards, with some odd but functional design features. The 5.3″ bull barrel replaced a 4.12″ barrel on a EVO 3 S2 Micro. In fairness both the 15 and 33 round Glock mags I use for it have to be pulled out but no failures of any kind (2264 rounds). Only then will the Glocksters figure out what they missed out on. © COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Reduce that trigger weight and I can see groups tightening right up. I bring up the APC-9 because — let’s be honest here — that’s pretty much exactly what the Stribog SP9A1 looks like. 16″ is better. Exactly. The only complaint I have, and something I think would improve that grouping, is the trigger. 0: ... You may not post new threads. He also reviews whiskey and talks about woodworking at. Fit and Finish: * * * * * You may not post replies. No longer do I have a list as long as the Mueller Report filled with an endless stream of AR-15 variants that I need to test. Magazine capacity is 10 rounds. Have had a P11MK12 for a coupla years now and I love it. B&T asks princely sum of $2,250 for their little blaster. FS/FT Custom AR15 Pistol Upper UPDATED TRADES!!! Now If we could get the daily digest back,THAT would give me the warm fuzzy feels!! The barrel length is 3.78" with an overall length of 6.97", the width of the pistol is 1.28" and the height with magazine is 4.80". I agree 100%. The FMP9 Pistol combines familiar AR-style controls, compact dimensions, and Glock magazine compatibility to create the ideal companion piece for … 14″ minimum barrel. The top full-length rail over the receiver also includes flip-up plastic sights. 10-08-2020 02:16 PM by apps47inc. The recoil is as soft as you’d expect from a direct blowback firearm like this, and I didn’t have a single issue with reliability the entire time I’ve been shooting it. Jeremy gave me a good amount of ribbing over how much stuff I’ve got hanging off the gun in this photo. $2250 is the price of the B&T APC-9. But when I can have something like the Grand Power Stribog SP9A1 9mm pistol that offers better features at literally one third the price, I don’t think there’s any contest as to which is the better option for most shooters. Even 2 shot drills off-hand, standing are less than 2″ for me at 35 yds (ish). Add the fact that gun is only offered with a tri-lug mounting option and now I’m needing additional adapters for my suppressors. We’ll see how it fairs against my MP7. Like with the MP5, it’s free and distinct from the bolt and doesn’t move once the gun is charged. I had one a short time. Decided to sell and saved for an MPX K. Great review. For the EVO we reviewed it back before there were any braces available that would have improved the experience, and there for sure weren’t any available pre-installed from the factory. The lower is made from a polymer material just like with those other examples, and just like the APC-9 the grip is molded into the lower. Most reviews I’ve seen the trigger was reported lighter than what you are getting. Instead of a tri-lug adapter like the APC-9, the Stribog SP9A1 comes with a threaded barrel sporting the typical 1/2×28 thread pitch that you’ll find on 9mm caliber firearms. Thanks for your comment, it’s definitely a valid point. In my book that’s a pretty good group size considering the constraints. Barn Bwt, Did you try a Geissile, and did it work? I’m getting one ragged hole about 3/4″ wide when kneeling at 20 yds. When people hear “Slovakia” they should first think think “Czecho-” not “Eastern Europe.” Their K22 is one of those rare steel slide 22s and the Xtrim is amazing out of the box. Thank you very much. I enjoyed the look and feel of the gun so much I thought about buying a new one in the hope that mine was the infrequent “lemon”, but gave up and resigned it to the rear of the safe maybe never to be seen again. I also complain because of those prices. I’ll point out that some other owners of this firearm have complained that these sights are easily broken, and on my firearm they aren’t exactly aligned with the point of impact downrange, but it’s way better than nothing. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The only reason these have to be labeled pistols is because of those stupid fucks at the ATF infringing on all those rights and pursuing king george III’s dream. I personally don’t care what they are called, and if being called a pistol gets them some play time on the field, then we should just make more “pistol” variant rifles/carbines/flamethrowers/RPG’s too. Gulf Coast Gun Forum is an active weapons forum where folks in Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana and the Gulf Coast of Texas can chat or buy/sell/trade weapons. Capacity: 30 rounds (10 and 20 round magazines available) Design is highly modular so I’m sure that will continue to develop further. The barrel comes from the factory with a thread protector installed over those threads but be aware that it’s a royal pain in the ass to remove. The only exception we sometimes make is the addition of some sighting systems or adding a suppressor. Got it with the Safety Harbor collapsing brace. I’m glad to see the Stribog is finally making it more mainstream. Welcome to The Outdoors Trader! In his free time, he's a competition shooter (USPSA, 3-gun and NRA High Power), instrument rated private pilot, and enjoys mixing statistics and science with firearms. You’re welcome. Now the A1 is a little better and cheaper but do not beat your life or someone you care about life on this gun functioning when you need it — still a lot of problems with the gun. Better than the Scorpion, better value than the SIG SAUER MPX in my opinion, and on par with the B&T APC-9. The magazine well is flared, and the firearm takes proprietary polymer magazines that are available in 10, 20, and 30 round varieties for roughly $25. Quick View. Click. The fire controls are a mixed bag. Interesting about the 2″ groups. Guns like the APC-9, SIG MPX or CZ Scorpion kept getting announced and manufacturers seemed to be trying to re-invent the wheel. The plastic molding is kind of cheap, but machining seems top notch, and besides the takedown pins being crazy tight I was overall impressed. Instead of a tri-lug adapter like the APC-9, the Stribog SP9A1 comes with a threaded barrel sporting the typical 1/2×28 thread pitch that you’ll find on 9mm caliber firearms. And at a third the price of the Swiss gun. There’s also a thriving aftermarket for the gun, with about a half dozen companies making stock/brace adapters, barrels, and charging handles. Just as with the APC-9 there is a full-length top rail and bottom rail. The delayed-blowback version is an absolute dream to shoot though I had to (and loved) go to Slovakia to shoot it. I own a GP Q100. It was lazy at best. You may not post attachments. Accuracy * * * * And seeing as I am not swimming in MP-5, B&T money I knew it was a sensible fit for me. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. as long as you do not feed it hollow points, This from the guy who reviewed the Scorpion without a brace. I think it’s an interesting concept for ammo storage, and the tag lines write themselves — the RSO’s preferred slogan was “CANmunition: so your targets go down smooth.”. He was carrying a UZI, even had a few magazines in his carry pouch. You can buy a really good handgun for that. Jeremy thinks that using an AR-style interchangeable grip would be a better option and I agree, but the grip they ship with the gun isn’t terrible. First and foremost was the price. Threw on an ol’ vortex sparc II. I don’t care what ATF calls it. The Stribog system uses a more traditional straight blowback design with a significantly heavier bolt and constant pressure from the return spring instead of a buffer mechanism. FS Colt 1911 Gold Cup National Match MKIV Series 80 with Upgrades, FS/FT Reduced to what there going for on gunbroker RUGER REDHAWK Alaskan 454 casull snub, FS B&T APC9K Pro w/ Sig Lower and SBT Brace + Upgrades, FS/FT HK VP9 (2020 + With Optic) and HK45ACP, FS PSA AR15 (6.5 Grendel) with a Vortex Viper HS LR 4-16 x 50 scope. The extra extended base is 2.062″ long for people who wish to pin and weld it on a 14.5″ barrel to achieve the required legal... Read more .